Brothers of Arms

[Wotsefer]

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=133939

So, basicly, pictish set and Fine steel set are better than T1 raid set, on magic dmg, crit, etc... hmmm, does it makes any sense ?
Does this mean if u have those set, Raiding in T1 is useless, since the armor are worse ? only T2 is worth it ?

Opened for discussion

[Alb]

hmm good question ... wouldn't say it is useless as you miss the +hit, +crit, +crit damage on the steelsilk set .. also the Dark Terror probably relies more on Intelligence (don't know the overall Int sums, which the poster must have calculated for the dps values) which influences more then just damage ... also your mana and mana regen. The const. bonus plays into your stamina pool and stamina regen rates .. which could potentially be significant in SW

maybe in terms of pure dps ... but it would also depend on how long you can hold that dps ... which is at least for an NF specced necro quite important.

I think ... roughly speaking ... the Dark Terror set has +120 INt more then the Steelsilk one.


Also not to forget ... that they still might rebalance these armour pieces as they do with the classes after introducing 1.05. There was plenty of discussion about the lack of difference between the T1 and T2 sets. One against one the point difference isn't that great. In the sum itself yes ... at least looking at the dps values in that post.

Belt of Necrotic Dread ... against ... Belt of Dark Terror

So Funcom might still come back to re-balance the Raid sets .. specifically once Tier 3 comes to TestLive.

But I guess one would have to run some tests on TestLive to see what the real difference in full sets are and how much the specific differences (aka lack of crit rating, etc.) helps or hinders.

Certainly interesting ... and the point that the Cultural Sets are Tier 9 items and therefore gems don't scale up as much compared to a Tier 10 (lvl 80) set ... which is probably a bit weird as the cutural set is more difficult to get then the basic armoursmithing recipe items ... however the raid and cutural sets (at least for the necro) look better :p ... well except for the helm (can a demo say "muuuhhh") .

[Wotsefer]

as reanimation necro, i need mroe int than magic dmg (though magic dmg add dps to pet) but int adds more.
i was just wondering how this guy can compare set buff when he does not even have all pieces and tryed dps with each of it. cause stat cannot always justofy best dps. As example, in trash of brc Necassis was first far ahead of me. But on least boss i was first. Same goes on t1 raid. we do not have at all same spec i agree, but this guy is , liek u said albae, talkign about pure base dmg, not considering tree and full set stat.


I agree on 1 point too. Necrotic dread set is really not so different than terror set. so how comes , pictish/fine steel sick sets are so much better than t1 raid set ?
really wondering how he trully investigated on those sets. For me its a incomplete analysis on true sets efficency.

[Alb]

don't think he did any tests .. but pure values. Which I think can be quite useful as the steelsilk set probably is cheaper and easier to get hold of then either the raid or cultural or any of the other sets.

It is still interesting to see as I never actually thought about the basic crafted items compared to cultural or T1 raid.

even the cultural has the hit, crit, etc. stats ... so it is weaker on Intelligence then the steelsilk set. So it might actually be worthwhile to look into these crafted items compared to some of the looted armour items or if you can't/don't want to afford the cultural set.

Might see to do a a few runs on TestLive (only one offs I guess .. so statically not very valid) IF I find some time.

[Wotsefer]

ok, i took note of my % score i did on each raid, counting the number of time i died and the pet i wsa using, the frenquency i used sw as well. once i get full t1 set, i wil see if there is difference, on what there is, etc.. Just it wil take a little while ;p