Brothers of Arms

[Gert]

No YG feat planner yet but going with a full Depravity magic-tank build on Gert...

Desecration is now the clear tree for damage and Depravity for tanking - makes things easier

[Alb]

Now Lyss just needs to test the DT in a PvP minigame .

Would that actually become a viable option ?

[Lyss]

I'm afraid I'm not nearly skilled enough as a DT yet to properly test that, but I can try

[Gert]

Going with a dps build, yes...esp as DT now has the anti-CC in that tree [hr][/hr]Parse of my first 1.05.5 depravity build:

[Gert]

I'm afraid I'm not nearly skilled enough as a DT yet to properly test that, but I can try

Might clone Gert and try a dps build and see how that fares now...

[Gert]

DTs can finally tank casters...fully feated CoI with Hex Marked Soul gives:



Next step - try and hit 60% in protection

That excludes Soul Barrier, the mana drain from spells hitting me and other little tweaks

Really liking this new update - can you guess that?

Only thing is, I had to lose Improved Defensive Stance to get this - but as I have CoP (the melee version of this) and Soul Barrier, my tanking capability is improved from that loss...

One happy DT here

Only problem is my UI now looks like:



Nearly as bad as Dalluh now

[Gert]

Shield dmg is higher this time as I used feated CoI on the caster boss in SH which does 60dmg rather than 40dmg for CoP (melee)

Note: this is a melee and magic tanking build; next step is to look at a dps build

Tweaked build...I'll be quiet now

[Gert]

First attempt at a DPS build - managed to stay in Frenzy the whole run...



Was a quick run - almost the same run time as a caster...not sure I'd be that happy using it for raids

[Gert]

Went for a relaxing run in Slaughter House with a tweaked build...really sure this shouldn't be legal on a DT

Really not a build for raiding but that dps is so tempting Full frenzy run, 0 deaths



Nice dps in the stats tab when buffs were up:



This was with full T2 (as was last dps run) so not expecting this on live...bloody nice though

[Gert]

Now Lyss just needs to test the DT in a PvP minigame .

Would that actually become a viable option ?

Problem with a PvP build is getting the cc/anti-cc/damage balance right...we get 1 free cc now but going the anti-cc route means we have to drop some magic damage; going for extra cc shifts us into the tanking tree.

As it stands I can see 2 or 3 viable builds for pvp - 1 is burst dps damage and the other 2 are piss-the-caster-off tanks (Invulnerable Soul and Mystical Bane are key to this )...which is good as the DT was always touted as a caster tank (as in tank them not a caster than can tank ).

Got a Depravity (piss-the-caster-off tank route) build that is viable for both sides...need to tweak a bit more but it might see me use Gert more in mini-games when this patch goes live

Blood Pact going to 5 min cd (unfeated)/no dmg/no cast time is going to help as well - esp going burst dmg (feated right, I was getting nice crits from Blood For Aid)...maxed Seal of Yog with the melee tank Covenant up also gives 1.4k heal; caster tank Covenant drains a nice bit of mana on top of the 2k or so you can drain with Mystical Bane (alongside the ~1k unholy damage and white damage).

I expect a bit of tweaking to DTs but it's looking nice for the future Conqs are next and hope they get the loving BS, Barbs and now DTs have gotten

[Gert]

And it's Live - be interesting to see how the changes affect raiding...esp as I can get 55% mitigation or 60% protection (only for 8 seconds every minute - otherwise it's 20%)...

[Kelerac]

Well I dont care about dmg... I just want do my best tanking lol
Still no feat calculators updated!
Anyone know feat calculators already updated?

[Gert]

I wouldn't expect to see YG updated until the weekend - that's how long it took last time with the BS/Barb changes

[Gert]

I've used my PvE tanking build a few times in PvP minigames...it's fun standing taking damage from 2-3 people and not dieing Even manage to kill 1 or 2 people Got a few compliments as well that it was very hard to kill me - the last match I was in it took a DT, Guard, BS, PoM and Ranger to take me down.

Might tweak it a bit but definitely liking this [hr][/hr]Gert's 1.05.5 PvE Tanking build

[Tampax]

With a healer and a few dps with you you would be unstopable, although most people that pvp know to nuke the healer first

[Gert]

The group I was with last night was nuking the polearm Guard first

[Gert]

Just looking at the parse for the W2 run last night and checking some of the feats...

Vile Gluttony (feat that adds damage to Zone of Gluttony) did 5% of my overall DPS - not too bad for a 1 point feat
Zone of Gluttony did a crit heal of 489 Overall healing wasn't that great from it though...
Dark Hand did a crit heal of 970...splash damage on this was also nice for the adds on Farty - although didn't use it that much as an attack.
Unhallowed Blight I is still a good attack - 1 key combo, cheap stamina with a debuff...managed 970 crit in Defensive Stance; definitely one combo every DT should have and use

[Gert]

Did some PvP with my basic PvE tank build - as long as it wasn't a 2-3 healer premade I managed to stay alive a fair bit...still very susceptible to cc but as the anti-cc skills is hard to get without constantly refeating I'll have to live with it...

Since 1.05.5 has come out I've done 6 matches and gained around 1/3 of my pvp level to level 1...going to try and get PvP level 1 before we try any major Alliance or server pvp tournaments

[Gert]

Managed to duel a HoX during a mini-game earlier - I was using the spec posted and was able to only get down to around 60% health whilst the HoX would get to 10-20% and run; feated CoI with HMS is a really good PvP setup

Hoping to hit pvp level 1 on Monday - that'll make it 7 days to get to lvl 1 on a DT since the patch

[Gert]

Considering shifting to this - HMS and CoI are good for PvP but finding them of limited use atm on raids; they're ok for things like tanking Spellguard in K or avoiding V's Dark flames but a fair bit of dmg is still melee. Might give it a go this week and see how it performs...

[Gert]

Getting bored of pure Tank DT'ing - looking at something like this to mix up some off-tanking and dps - also has a little bit more group support...

[Gert]

Changed to that build and it's fun Can MT a T1 raid boss (well, at least I can MT Vistrix ) and do a nice bit of dps (V raid was ~300dps, around 100dps more than the old build)...just need to balance the mana usage now.

[Gert]

After playing a bit in T3/1.06 on TL I'd probably shift back to this