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1.05 Demo builds

Postby Gert » 15 Jun 2009, 16:13

Currently bouncing between :

BBQ

Minor changes from Live build - shifted points from Archmage into Mind Phase and dropped a point from Gate of Hell to Blazing Fire for the debuff chance.

and

Shocking!

New Havoc build for me - some nice dmg though :)
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Postby Gert » 15 Jun 2009, 22:48

Tried the Havoc build it lacks something after being used to the Conflag build...it's a nice build but dmg seems a bit low - found it hard to get over a 3k crit :(

One thing with the Havoc build - was really hard to get the mana bar moving...was just under 7k mana and never went below 6.5k :o
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Postby Gert » 22 Jun 2009, 01:28

BBQ build, SH run...time to make the Necros cry ;)

0 deaths, 2 health pots used, 0 mana pots used; full feated regen pet used. Full Tier 1 gear used. Total time in SH - 18mins :D I was able to take 5 mobs on (with Planar Shift up) and do Let Them Burn on them without problem...without Planar Shift, 2 was more than enough :) Elder Pict boss was a pushover - no Planar Shift needed, just need to move when the targetted aoe was set off; time to kill was 53 secs. Ghost boss was a joke - stun, debuff with Hellfire Stream then Let Them Burn; total time for Ghostie was 37 secs. Iron Jaw was 23 secs :P

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Imba's overall stats for comparison (is that crying I hear? :P)

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Damage breakdown:

85% fire/15% elec (can't do screenie of breakdown as some of the entries are truncated).

Top attack - Fires of Gelhanna @ 142,485 dmg

One thing I did see, Chaotic Blast does the Necro chain fatility when you do a fatality with it now. It's also a targettable aoe which is nice :)

Demon pet did 10k dmg, Living Firestorm was 3.2k (used it twice)

I think I'll stick with Conflag :P

* awaits the HoX 1.05 SH run ;)
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Postby Lyss » 22 Jun 2009, 08:10

Hmmm :think:

That's some impressive dps you got there...
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Postby Gert » 22 Jun 2009, 08:12

With a bit of tweaking/different spell rotation/pulling more mobs I reckon I could get to 500DPS - was surprised that Conflag was so good still considering the doom and gloom posts...if I get chance I'll rerun with the Shocking build to get a feel.

I think the HoX could probably match the Demo - not sure why the Necro seems low compared to this though...
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Postby Lyss » 22 Jun 2009, 08:17

Maybe because Necro relies on DoTs and that's parsed differently :? (doubt it)? I did get the bosses down quicker than you tho as I did use SW on those fights :P
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Postby Gert » 22 Jun 2009, 08:40

I didn't use any SW :( Not really a fan of SW for some reason - using the Pacts/Conflag buffs seems to give me the damage I want :P

DoTs will get parsed properly...I think the main thing is Demo is direct dmg with some DoTs so can take a single target quicker than a Necro who relies on DoTs with some direct dmg. Comparing the logs this seems to hold out...for example, Flesh to Worms was DoT'ing for around 260-280; Fires of Gelhanna was single target dmg of around 1,200 - 2,000 (when buffed); so if your mob died before the DoT could expire you'd be losing DPS :(

Your Fires of Gehenna (Rank 6) crits Crocodile Elder for 3343 fire damage.


Biggest crit I managed - no pacts but Greater Flames/Flame Body/Unholy Hate/Cursed by Hell was up.

Seems Chill is the best single target damage for a Necro:

Your Chill (Rank 5) crits Trapped Ghost for 3144 frost damage.


That was your highest crit from the log...not sure what debuffs/buffs were running.

I don't think SH is a good place to try and compare the 2 - maybe HoX/Demo but probably not Necro/Demo. Somewhere like Onyx or possibly Xib/AF where the mobs vary would be better imo.

Either way, I don't think Conflag Demos have too much to worry about ;) Biggest nerf I saw was we can't use all 3 pacts at once now :(
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Postby Lyss » 22 Jun 2009, 09:40

That Chill crit was quite buffed I think- unbuffed crits usually hit for 2.7k-2.9k

Ah well I'll go see what the HoX can do now :)

Update: Ouch, did a nice SH run but the game didn't log anything :x Maybe should've waited a few more minutes for the character to copy.
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Postby Gert » 14 Oct 2009, 06:59

BBQ build is still doing some nice damage...one day I'll get round to using SW as well and then I'll see how good it can be :P
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